A journalist and researcher of unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP) or UFOs as they are better known, presented the remains of alleged “non-human” beings to lawmakers in Mexico on Tuesday during the country’s first public congressional hearing on the subject.
Jamie Maussan brought two boxes containing what he said were the small, stuffed bodies of aliens found in Peru in 2017. He said carbon-14 dating by the National Autonomous University of Mexico had determined that the remains were 700 and 1,800 years old. Each of the figures has only three fingers on each hand and elongated heads that at least superficially resemble the Hollywood-born character ET.
Congress of Mexico, Chamber of Deputies
“This is the first time it (extraterrestrial life) has been presented in such a form, and I think there is a clear demonstration that we are dealing with non-human specimens that are not related to any other species in our world,” Maussan told lawmakers, urging them to consider the issue, which he said should not be seen as “a political issue — it’s a human issue.”
He said DNA evidence could prove the samples were not from this planet, but it was not clear whether such tests had been carried out.
At least one previous claim by Maussan about alleged “non-human” remains discovered in Peru has been debunkedalthough the specimens he presented Tuesday in Mexico City looked different from the one he previously had talked about in 2015.
Congress of Mexico, Chamber of Deputies
The hearing was to discuss the language on UAP in the Aerial Space Protection Law, which, if approved, would make Mexico the first nation to formally recognize the presence of alien life that has ever existed on Earth, Reuters news agency said, citing local media.
Maussan, who regularly appears in Mexican media to present his research and reporting on UFOs, was joined by a former US Navy pilot at the hearing in the lower chamber of deputies of the Mexican Congress, who recently made a similar case to US politicians in Washington.
Ryan Graves, the executive director of the Americans for Safe Aerospace organization, told the Mexican politicians that he founded the group after “recognizing the need for action and response.”
“We believe the UAP represents an urgent priority for both aviation safety and scientific investigation,” he said Tuesday. “Our focus is on improving public education about UAP, breaking stigma, and working toward better transparency and disclosure.”
In July, Graves addressed members of the US House of Representatives alongside David Grusch, a former military intelligence officer turned whistleblower, who accused the US executive branch to keep Congress and the American people in the dark about UAPs.
Grusch, who served for 14 years as an intelligence officer with the US Air Force and the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, including as a representative of two Pentagon task forces investigating UAP, told the House Oversight Committee’s National Security Subcommittee in July that he had experienced “a multi- decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse-engineering program” during his work investigating classified US programs.
The US Department of Defense’s Office of Anomaly Resolution for All Domains, which Congress created to investigate such incidents, had investigated around 800 reports by UAP as of May 2023. While military officials have said most cases have an innocuous origin, many others remain unexplained.
Lawmakers have also suggested that the US military knows more about the objects than it has disclosed to Congress.
About a month after the hearing in Washington The Pentagon announced that the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office had launched a new website to provide the public with declassified information about the UAP.
Graves was an F-18 pilot based in Virginia Beach in 2014 when he says his squadron first began detecting unidentified objects. He described them as “dark gray or black cubes… inside a clear ball, the point or points of the dice touching the inside of the ball.”
He said a co-pilot had told him about an incident about 10 miles off the coast in which an object between 5 and 15 feet in diameter flew between two F-18s that came within 50 feet of the plane. He said there was no acknowledgment of the incident by the US Navy or way to report the encounter at the time.
UAP meetings, Graves told US lawmakers in July, were “not rare or isolated.”
“We are left with thoughts, with concerns and with the plan to continue talking about this,” Mexican lawmaker Sergio Gutierrez concluded at Tuesday’s hearing, according to Reuters. “Let’s hope that this is the first of several events and that there will be discussions in the legislature about the need or not to propose changes to the laws.”